TOTAL COST Of Our 13kw SOLAR POWER SYSTEM | Powering A Modern Home With Solar

[Music] are you ready dude let me do this all right oh my hands on my hand girl you doing watch your hands now so this is a uh highly controversial video no it's not i heard it no it's not i like uh i don't really know how to explain it it's a highly asked question though we have it is and i think that there's a lot of value to the answer um for people i know it's something that we would have liked to have been able to watch you know years before we moved here so we could have known what we're preparing for i think the thing is is that i'm just a little bit protective or very protective of josh and how hard you have worked to get us here and i don't like the idea of anybody you know undermining how much you've worked and sacrificed that's all not a big deal it's a big deal for me okay don't come for him in the comments okay so what are you getting to tell them what we're doing so we made a video about a year and a half ago about how much the solar cost with the original system yes so now it's part two because we've actually grown the system by three times the size yes our solar system now contains a solar array with 13.1 kw and a 6800 continuous running watts inverter so we're going to do a solar breakdown with the entire solar system cost because that is a highly asked question yes we've probably since these latest solar videos been going out we'll probably get 10 of those questions per video yeah with good reason yeah people want to know yes we wish we know yes so um let's uh well i guess first of all um what to preface this we are not trying to like sell you guys on solar or tell you to go get solar that it would be best for you or anything this is just you know coming from our experience with solar and like why we chose solar how it's worked out for us what we paid that sort of thing so you can take that for what it is also we're not affiliated with you're going to hear us talk about all e probably and schneider alt-e is the company that we went through to purchase everything they've had great customer service yep uh you can actually go onto their website where they have a load calculator so you can put in you know what what you're running how many hours yes all your appliances and they have i guess examples of different appliances and how many watts they've run you can input those how many hours per day and then uh you can add everything up and uh gives you you or your uh i guess so your kilowatt hours per day views and then you multiply that monthly and then give you the size of your system that you should need with the inverter and the size of your array you're going to go off grid like we are the size of your battery bank depending on how many days you want to use your batteries for it yes and a lot of our equipment is schneider our batteries are simplified but again we're not affiliated or sponsored by any of those companies i will at least link um alt e for you guys though below in the uh video description yeah so that you can find it the huge question is how do you guys know how to size your system properly yeah um there's a load calculator yes that's it super easy yeah and they they'll tell you what you need um and if you also call them too they'll help you out and tell you what you need and they can pretty much build your system for you so you know what components go with what so you're not left in the dark yeah so but um keep in mind that we are off bridge so this is actually what jumped our price up significantly versus being a grid tied system with your uh panels on your roof or something like that yes which we'll get into more kind of uh some of the variables and some of the miscellaneous items and what not like batteries to that that sort of thing once we get through the cost of stuff so where where do we want to start do we want to start with the actual components that we have and the cost for each of them yep you go am i gonna go i'll i'll go ahead i'll um read off what it is and the price and then maybe you could just give more details into what each of them is how about i'll read the everything off in the price you have details about how everything works well that's fine since i am the brains behind the operation obviously okay so we have a total of 32 solar panels um i get how am i going to stay with the what each of them are like we have we have 12 handwa solar panels that are 385 watts each and then we have uh 20 more um handheld panels that are 420 now five watts each are they 425 yes they are okay it's okay that's i'm here so many numbers so we have a total of uh panels so the the original 12 pounds we have is uh it's actually uh string number one and then we got uh two more strings or three strings of panel so it's uh 12 panels in the first string second string is 10 panels third string is uh 10 pounds yes and what was the total cost on that um eight thousand twenty four dollars eight thousand sixty four 8 00 64 so it's a lot of money yes so then then we have the rails which is what is attaching the solar panels to our stanchion yes that all came from alti also and those are the the like she said the rails are going vertical on the horizontal pipe that we have and how your panels are bolting to it and those hold your panels in place so the rails consist of the rails obviously all the pieces that go onto the uh pipe and all the u-bolts and everything to uh hold the panels in place yes that's the entire thing turn key it's gonna be what two thousand dollars two thousand bucks that does not count the stanchion though no which we'll get into yes let's go over the components first disconnects we have four disconnects totaling in one thousand two hundred dollars yes so we have a uh disconnect out by the uh solar array and we have three disconnects going towards the powerhouse the three are non-fused uh nema 3r 30 amp 600 volt switches the one over by the panels the only difference is that when it is fused with 15 amp fuses inside so a total of 1200 yes and a quick side note we did round these numbers up so we're not dealing with you know like the change and whatnot that goes along with these okay combiner box 100 nest cabana box is for string one um because it's 12 panels we actually uh wired six in series six in series and we paralleled them in the combiner box that goes back to the child controller um with charge controllers we have three charge controllers yes total of three thousand six hundred dollars yes there are about twelve hundred dollars each so it's a charge controller per string so string one string two string three hence three charge controllers um you can say something i was gonna go to the next one are you ready for the next one one inverter three thousand dollars yes so it's a uh 6800 watt inverter and i guess a lot of questions are people said your uh your uh solar panels are 13 000 watts combined but your inverter is 6800 watts so it's too small that's not the case the panels are for charging and use so the 6800 watt number is the load that's able to come out and us use for the house um so i'm gonna put this easily um if i'm running say if i had cut take two get your cookies so our inverter is uh 6800 watts our solar rate is uh 13 000 watts people said uh the panels are too big for the inverter that's not the case because the inverter the load allowed out um continuous load is 1600 watts um so if i'm running say a load of uh say 6 000 watts on the inverter um with my original one string of uh 12 pounds was 4.6 kw so it's 4 600 watts that's a max at high sun i can get out of those panels so if i was using 6000 watts i'm bringing in 4.6 000 watts the rest is going to come off the battery so i'm using all those that wattage all the power plus i'm drawing off the batteries um i can still draw more with my inverter but the reason why we went bigger is because i can actually now bring as i'm at a max at 13 000 watts coming in i can burn that 6 000 watts from using on the inverter and charge the batteries at the same exact time does that make sense yes so and also with uh low sun hours um to say my original array of 4.6 is operating at uh 50 because it's overcast so i'd be say 2 300 watts would be coming in but now that i have three strings i can break bringing in over 6000 watts coming in with those with the overcast so that's why our array is so big um the array is not what allows you to use your load on your inverter the the load on the inverter is 1600 watts that i can use at a max of continuous uh that inverter also is uh you can surge it at i think 7500 watts for a half hour and also surges at 12 000 watts for one second so if you run a bunch of things say my well pump kick's on and it spikes up real quick i can hit 12 000 watts per second and it comes back down does that make sense yeah hopefully i hope it's okay we've never maxed it out we never have no no i think we in the last video we went through and uh i think we hit around 53 or 5400 watts i've never seen that thing that high before we're just we never there's no need for us to be running oh and we were actually plugging stuff in like the air compressor and stuff trying to like get it get it up there but we don't run like all these things at once to where we're maxing it out no it's 35 degrees outside so we're doing filming inside too yeah you can see turns inside there that still the fans those fans run off the heat of the uh stove and they're not spinning so that means there's no fire there right we're actually running an electric heating house yes i had two split systems running it's nice and warm in here i'm actually sweating a little bit with my uh my flannel on that's my hair's in the short sleeves i think that's why you're trying to remember all those numbers is making you sweat the nice thing about this is we can cut down on how much firewood we need yes you know yeah it's really nice or if we're gone we don't have to worry about having a fire running in the house well we're not here yep that is pretty sweet it is okay where were we inverted okay so mini power distribution panels 600 and that is what's below our uh inverter it has the that's where all the uh the wires that come from the charge controller and go into the bus bars now everything and all the breakers all that stuff's down there just it's bolts to the bottom of the inverter there's power coming in and power coming out that's all it is batteries the batteries so we've made uh i guess our first purchase of batteries i guess for the last video we did we use a tesla model s batteries and we quickly got rid of those we sold those and went to the uh simplified batteries i guess the biggest the biggest reason for that change was because we didn't have a battery monitoring system with those batteries and those test batteries they don't have bms on them um they can have thermal runaway and they can burn catch up fire and burn the place down and that's it for us is a huge risk so we uh sold those and we went to uh simplify we've made uh over the past like two years from a year and a half we've made uh multiple purchases on batteries as uh money allowed so yes because they're expensive yes so the first three batteries they did buy from simplify um they're 2800 each and there comes out to be in uh eighty four hundred dollars yes um now the batteries are actually twenty five hundred dollars so they actually went down to price three hundred dollars per battery who bought three more and it's actually seventy five hundred dollars per grand total of what through the math right what is it fifteen thousand roughly six not roughly i mean i want it on the dot josh fifteen nine okay but you had to sit there and think about it i ended up real quick you know yeah well me too i have an audience and everything no no wonder you're sweating but there's no thermal runway with those batteries uh yeah they're great yes and we do plan on building onto that battery bank again yeah as time and finances allow that's the one spot on this system i believe that we are lacking on is a bigger battery bank but we will like she said grow it when time comes battery monitor 360 dollars yes um and what all that is it pretty much uh monitors all the voltages um on the ends of the batteries and also in the middle of the battery so it can measure all the batteries as one big battery bank and it pretty much talks to the inverter the charge controllers and all everything works in unison and that's what matters monitors the battery that's actually different than the bms the battery monitoring system inside the batteries yes it's different yeah um system control panel 210 that's a little button you guys see me pushing to uh pretty much go through all the functions on the system i can pretty much monitor everything from that control panel comm box 190.

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That thing lets us pretty much tied to the internet so we can get onto a i guess a app have internet on there so we can monitor our system that way or also uh do downloads or uploads um to uh different uh what is it called i don't know but we are gonna have everything inside this house right now we haven't run it through here the pipe is end but we're going to have so that we can actually monitor everything from inside here or like you said you could put it on your um ipad yeah you can put different firmware on there as i guess things change with uh schneider that's what it's portable lightning arresters three 120 dollars yes and those are the little things next to our charge controllers italian so if we get hit by lightning that's supposed to uh save the system we'll see we'll let you know i know we're letting you hit stuff with tears things apart that's all i know that little thing we'll see if it works or not okay so what we've gone over so far is the major components of the system so the grand total of what we went over so far is about thirty six thousand dollars yes um the biggest thing with those is the batteries but um that's not count all the fuses and all the small nuts and bolts and the small miscellaneous things like uh mc4 cable that's all that extra stuff that came from ulti it was about thirty six thousand dollars we didn't right yes yes so we didn't mix in all of those little things that also came from from ulti that was just the major stuff um so now let's talk about the miscellaneous costs that are also not a part of that that's gonna be things like all the equipment rentals the battery racks um extension the wire the trough the concrete the actual delivery costs yeah i think the delivery cost was over a thousand bucks yes to get all the solar components here yeah on freight so we are not going to break this down into each little one of those um this is going to vary depending on everybody's situation because you might not have like a 400 foot run from your panels to wherever your components are you might put it on your roof then you don't need a stanchion then you don't need equipment to trench everything in then you don't need that pipe you wouldn't need as much wire so there's a lot of things that could be different for your situation um versus ours and another cost that you're not going to hear us talk about is the labor because i just so happened to have be the grunt i happened to be doing an electrician thank goodness who's able to to do all this so yeah like you said so if you're to bolt your pants inside your house you would not need a stanchion um that stands is very expensive galvanized pipe going to the ground it's hundreds of feet of pipes of three-inch it's all rigid so it's very expensive a few thousand dollars on that alone um then also digging in 400 feet to the powerhouse we're for we we're surrounded by trees so we actually put in the middle of our pasture we trenched in 400 feet still talking about uh cost for rental fee for that yes um also a rental fee for uh boarding the hose into the ground yes but the uh auger and the uh bobcats so that's big big numbers there it is plus josh says that he might have gone a little bit overboard on the way that he did things in the powerhouse definitely did but that's just because you know he likes things a specific way a commercial electrician so we did it commercial like it's like i should be installed in my opinion um you could actually run cable students do things a lot differently than i did but i want it that way it looks better that way i love it you did a great job thank you um but if you did everything like aaron said on the side of your house yeah all you're gonna be paying for is the racks and it bolsters your house and we included that price of the rails for us at least which was in our initial um rundown of components so yeah you wouldn't have that stanchion cost so um can you think of anything else miscellaneous to add to that or should we just go to the cost um all of our miscellaneous costs ended up adding up to another six thousand dollars yeah so that's going to bring everything to a grand total of 42 000 percent for everything said and done that we did yes so i believe the first year we uh ordered it we had a 30 tax credit and i guess the for this uh past years we did we bought two stages um we built the first stage two years ago and just recently about the second stage of this um and it's a 28 tax credit so i just averaged it out to be in 29 tax credit and uh we didn't put that on here yes we did after tax incentives it took us down to twenty nine thousand eight hundred dollars call it thirty thousand to just make it easier for everybody so say it takes us down to thirty thousand dollars after you include those tax incentives yep so when we moved here um we had the perfect spot for the house yes there's no power around anywhere no um it's actually about a half mile that way um had the power coming to come out here we talked to them we walked the property the first thousand feet for them was free so that counts cable um the rest of the is on our dime yes so when for them to have labor come out pull the wire um or they could do poles they want poles come to the pasture no no so it was around fifteen thousand dollars just for their wire and their labor to pull everything around 15k that does not count for me running the machine and digging in they're uh they want a three inch pipe and every 500 feet they wanted a uh a handhold so that didn't count any of that stuff yes it would have been over fifteen thousand dollars it would have been over fifteen thousand dollars so that we were in it for fifteen thousand dollars regardless of which direction we went if we went on grid or if we went off-bread there's gonna be fifteen thousand dollars yes or more i guess because that doesn't include all the extras with uh the power company so we were going to be in it for 15 000 regardless so again this is where it gets personal to our particular situation we go ahead and we're you know including that in what our final cost breakdown is that we were going to have 15 000 put in so if you include that in there then that knocks us down to what 15 000 15k yeah so that brings us down to fifteen thousand dollars that we have invested yes then yep including that so then we're gonna go back and calculate what we expected our monthly utility bill expense to be had we gone on grid and we're basing this off of our previous home um it averaged out to be about 250 a month we would have of course some months that were higher and some months that were lower but it averaged out to be about 250 a month which comes out to be three thousand dollars a year that we would be paying to the power company had we gone on grid yes so that's a five year return yes so recoup our investment to five years if uh you wanna put that extra fifteen thousand dollars in we have to pay the car power company it would be ten years so still it's still we make our money back eventually and we don't have any uh any monthly bills yes plus we also just we we don't have the the power company with rights onto our property we have energy independence which is important to us and uh what do you think we have a kid right there i was trying to ignore him i looked at you and i could see your face looking around i completely lost my train of thought okay one second you wanna say hi hi sorry i lost my train of thought where are we at i think that i was just saying um now frank's in here too it's okay i have no idea i was basically just saying that we the energy independence is important to us and we have that and we kind of want to be able to rely on ourselves for as many things as possible whether it's you know our electricity or our water or our skill set developing one to be able to build things we might need or fix things we might need or raise as much of our own food as possible it's just one of our personal goals and this is part of it yeah so i remember like a few years ago before we moved here my friend uh we had a massive snowstorm back in virginia and my friend happened to be the only house on the transformer i mean their transformers out everywhere um blew up power lines down um and it took about two weeks for them to actually he was actually the last man on the list because his one transformer right there controlled his house only and they were going running all transformers that actually were hitting more houses so he actually about two weeks for them to get the power back on and he'd stay in hotel for about two weeks yeah and also looking back at texas last week too um we're energy independent we are we're not worried about anybody else yes and along with that we also want other systems so if if we also have a backup generator you know which is another system in place but say that both of those were to go out i mean that's one of the reasons we want to install an outdoor um wood burning stove because even if this one if something happened to this one right here like we were still able to heat our home we'd be able to heat our hot water um we can do those sorts of things so we do want to put in place as time goes along other systems like an outdoor wood cook stove that we could cook on right now we can also cook on this one and it's got an oven capability but we're just taking things in steps and uh being more self-sufficient not to rely on the man for anything we rely on ourselves yes and uh we're free that way yes it does it gives us a sense of freedom yep for sure but something that we didn't go over yet is the life of the system because that's important i think that's something people are going to wonder about so let's start with the panels the panels are warrantied for 25 years they are so after 25 years they're still going to be good they're still going to work they should be around 80 in life so uh they when you first get them there you're charging around 100 um after 25 years they should still be able to charge up around 80 yeah so they still work um but who knows 25 years from now those panels might be half the size if they're half a size and half size of probably quarter the price because prices are coming down yes so who knows we might just take those pounds out put new ones up have double the array um at that same footprint a good example of that i know you had mentioned the batteries but with the panels the the new panels that we bought the extra 20 that we most recently got they're the same price as the original panels with a higher wattage yeah yeah so the same size too and that's that's just in a short time span two years two years yeah a year and a half two years so it is steadily coming down so the batteries we have simplify batteries um do you wanna talk about that you know better than i do yeah so um if you treat the batteries properly um i think they're warranted for like 10 000 cycles if you uh don't go below 80 depth discharge um the batteries are able to go through down to 100 you can burn up 100 but they it dramatically uh reduces the life cycles i think it's still five hundred life cycles if it goes down a hundred percent so what i'm getting at is if you said eighty percent or above we should keep these batteries for 15 20 years without a problem yes and then again it's going to be interesting to see where the price of solar is in the near future that's frank do you guys hear him big bricky so that's that what else do we have just that that we didn't buy it all all at once no we um we took it in steps but we did make sure to uh start with something that we could build onto rather than just going with something really small off the get-go that could just get us by because we wanted to be able to reuse things we didn't want to have to get rid of everything and buy something that was completely new so we bought in stages and we're still doing that like we mentioned with the batteries we're still we're going to be adding on to that but those are very expensive and just as time goes along we're going to say say you like solar but going off grid is not your thing you could actually have our system for half the price that we paid for because you can do a grid tied system with no batteries and you be able to recoup your money in probably five or six years with that it's the most expensive thing for us is the uh batteries yeah right yeah so that that's a pro cost wise but what what would potentially be a con of grid tie that's not i mean if your power goes out from power company i think power goes out i believe right i think that that's the case yo you'll have to look into that because we're not obviously grid tied so we don't know for sure but i was under the impression that since you don't have a way to store that for night for night time yes it definitely goes out i'm not sure if the sunshine and power goes down if you have power not i have no idea but if it happens at night you have no powers there's no storage in it right so it's something to consider but also look into that because we also don't really don't really know what that is that's it that's it that's it in the video in a video i don't got anything else um if you got any questions let us know we are going live again here in a couple days yes we are we're going live again on um on friday it's been it's been a great way for us to just be able to directly get the questions from you guys and respond to them because a lot of the times in um in the videos it's it's just hard to stay on top of the videos i even i think it was craig had asked us a question and i didn't see his question come in on one of our videos or i would have answered it but i i can't stay on top of the comments across all different like platforms and whatnot and then i asked him to ask the question again and then i actually had to go back and like search to find the reply it can just get messy sometimes so if you do have a question and you are able to join us live a lot of the times it's just easier because it comes in in real time and we can just hit real quick yes yes so join us i'll leave the link below for that use my link that's it that's it thanks for watching guys see ya big prank is he your favorite no i got chucky and honeybee right frankie i know i know jeff was the og okay chuck's the pug ranger you

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